President Joe Biden said Thursday in his second TV interview since leaving office that he wasn’t surprised Vice President Kamala Harris lost to President Donald Trump in November.

“I wasn’t surprised, not because I didn’t think the vice president wasn’t the most qualified person to be president. She is,” Biden said during his appearance on ABC’s “The View.”

Biden, who was ousted as the Democratic Party’s nominee following his disastrous debate performance against Trump in June 2024, maintained he did bow out of the race and that he could have won, given that Trump got “7 million fewer votes” than him nationwide in their 2020 matchup.

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